Here an stats between the Roman Empire at it’s height and the Han empire at it’s most powerful.
Standing army size———-400,000—————————-800,000
Minimum required training—-one season————————one year
Training required for———-soldiers—————–every male upon age of 23(meaning over 10 million trained reserves)
Typical general’s career——politician————————— military leader
Weapons—————-mostly wrought iron—————mostly steel by E.Han
Iron industry————–bloomeries————————-blast furnace
Furthest campaign————890 km (Trajan)——————1,850 km (Li Guangli)
Government revenue —–3 billion liters*(at its height) ——6 billion liters*(at its height)
军队规模： 40万 80万
马匹储备： 8万 40万
训练的最短时间： 1个季度 1年
训练对象： 士兵 23岁以上的所有男性
武器： 主要是锻铁 东汉大多数采用钢铁
炼铁工业： 锻铁炉 鼓风炉
财政收入： 30亿升 60亿升
The Han defeated the Huns, who burned Rome.
Turco-Mongols never took Rome but they took all of China without a sweat.
Plus Atilla never burnt down Rome. The Romans bought off the Huns.
I think we all know how a war between China and Rome would have ended….a roman general climbing on top of piles of chiense corpses, waving the flag of the eagle and shouting “ROMA VICTOR!”
Chinese were ruled by every people on earth. Several Turkic dynasties, Mongols, British, Japanese and few others. Rome (in Italy) was almost never conquered.
China was very powerful, no doubt about it. But the problem was, since her body was too big, she could not mobilize all of its force against a particular enemy at a time. So a sharp penetrating cavalry corp running straight into the Chinese capital can deliver a fatal strike to the whole empire. Losing the capital, the rest would fallen into mass disarray and could be conquered part by part.
The ancient China external threats always from the north, every beat nomads,put them to the Central Asian, European side out of the north, the geographical environment is not suitable for farming, two hundred or three hundred years later, another nomadic development
Ming gunpowder dominates Mongol steppe barbarians.
Roman Soldiers were muscular. Roman empire had better Naval power
In movies but not so much in real life. The typical Roman soldier was a midget, and Han especially Northern Han were almost 4 inches taller than them. Likewise Northern Han are at least on par with Caucasoids in physical strength, if not stronger and hardier.
Did you see them in hollywood movies?
Yes, where else can I see live demo :sarcastic:Within thousand years, body structure didnt change that much I suppose.
Han empire have advantage on land warfare for their large numbers. But Romans are superior with their military strategy and Naval power.
Muscularity does not predispose to victory.
Han Heavy Cavalry
Han Army Crossbow
Han Army Swords
Obviously the Romans. The orientals had leather/bamboo armor while the Romans had metal. The Romans also had better military doctrine.
The Han influenced east asian culture from chopsticks to Confucianism.
Chinese General of the Song Dynasty:
Who ever said the Han would lose in an naval confrontation with rome is out of their minds. Ever heard of the Battle of Red Cliff during the three kingdom period?
Basically Roman created the most modern form of government. Surprisingly !!!
Do you hear about Roman Constitution ? Roman Republic ? Senate of Roman ?
Han Empire’s bronze and bluestone armor
That looks cool, what is it? An aqueduct? We have the same in Istanbul.
Yes it is an Aquaeduct. They normally spanned thousands of km to bring water from the mountains to the big cities
The fascinating fact about this is that China still exists as China while the other former empires never got up again once it got vandalised, such as the Ottoman Empire, Mongol Empire or Roman Empire, even the British Empire practically shrunk back to its former size or vanished from the earth.
If US didn’t intervene in WW2 to save the Chinese from the Japanese, China wouldn’t exist at all. It is nothing to be attributed to China.
the fascinating fact is, that china does not exist as china since it never was the state it is now, neither had it the same people nor had it any impact on world history.
that is because the Han were “fortunate” ( thanks to the ice age) enough to be amonst the first major high IQ race to perfect the art of agriculture, hence being able to sustain an unusually large of population in one of the biggest corners of Eurasian continent, unlike their other empire counter parts.
Roman Legionnaire Cavalry:
Rome’s greatness was not only realized through her shear military power, but was realized through her architectural know-how: